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[elenaran]

Hello, I'm trying to find the GIS data for this project. I've read that there are over 140 layers, but I can't seem to find the download location anywhere.

[vellum]

elenaran, I think there is a link on CG site for the download.  I'll have to look it up

[vellum]

http://www.cartographersguild.com/general-miscellaneous-mapping/1332-middle-earth-dem-project-37.html    Read this, there is a link to download site.  Monks can better tell you the deal when he logs in.

[elenaran]

I only see the Outerra files there. I was under the impression there were standard GIS files too

[monks]

Hi Elenaran, yes we have a good number of data layers, but not as many as we would like. We have them in .shp format- well any format that Global Mapper can output. One of our members put up an online map- can't access the link at the mo though. Why do you ask?

monks

[jvangeld]

The map tiles are available at http://66.172.33.110/openlayers2.html

But, no, that isn't a .shp.  Monks, if I had access to those I could put together a webmap in Geoserver.

[monks]

I need to put a link to the map in the new website frontpage here:
http://www.me-dem.me.uk/

 I think it needs an image like the galleries and vids, but say "online map". So I'll have to resize them so we can fit the 3 on there.
 Do you have ftp access from filezilla or something?

monks

[monks]

I've tracked down what I think are the latest Global Mapper project files- so many it's getting confusing! The latest update is 149 so you can imagine how many project files are on there 
Yeh, I have two core files. One for the Outerra stuff and one for general shp files- which used to be the core project file but the Outerra one has somwhat taken over now since it has all the up to date terrain in there.
 I'll have to compile all the shp files into one folder but prioritising what I think are the latest versions. So I'll have to add those last to overwrite any older versions. Then I can upload them to the ftp.
 I don't think merging the two projects would be a good idea since the shp one contains data which is rarely used -to date anyway. Saves loading it all in everytime you open the project.
 I also need to get the Outerra build terrain back into the GM project along with the GTS texture. And for the next build I'm going to alter the base dem fairly drastically- just respanning it- so the old base dem needs to be replaced too. We found that the base dem is too high...and that figures because the base dem was originally intended to cover the entire span of the terrain. But over the years a two layer approach evolved, so now we're adding stuff to the base dem- that's why we're getting very high terrain and lots of moorland in the GTS textures. I always figured we could respan the base dem once I'd decided to go the two layer route, but it was always scheduled for some distant time in the future as and when needed, so that's why it got forgotten about and overlooked. 

monks

[monks]

pm sent.

monks

[monks]

I've created a link off the front page to the online map.

http://www.me-dem.me.uk/

monks

[elenaran]

Yeah, I'm interested in the shapefiles. Is there an FTP somewhere?

[monks]

Elenaran, it would be useful if you could tell us what you plan to do with the files?

monks

[elenaran]

Ah, well I teach a physical geography class, and I thought it would be cool if I could apply the topics we cover in class to a fictional world, such as Middle Earth. I was originally just going to use some map images from online, but they're all pretty poor in quality, and don't look how I want them to. I'm familiar with GIS, so I thought if someone had already made Middle Earth shapefiles, I could just make my own map.

[monks]

Heh, wish we had teachers like that when I was at school 
I don't know what level you are teaching it at so the files may be limited in use for you. I can upload the files to my googledrive.

 We have:
 Forests
 Rivers
 lakes
 wetlands
 towns/cities etc
 vulcanism
 roads
 desert
 Some generalised geology. biome and climate layers from Fonstad and role playing sources.

 The terrain....
 What software are you using to view it with? My partner here usually recommends not giving out full res data. You would have trouble with it anyway- especially the dem. I'll run off a 10K dem overnight and gen out some contours for you. I could give you the 10K dem too if you absolutely need it, but you could gen a dem from the contours if you have gridding in your software.

monks

[elenaran]

Yeah I definitely don't need the full super high resolution DEM. A resampled one is probably fine. I'm using ArcGIS.

The biome and climate layers from Fonstad might be good too - I love that book. Also, general stuff like forest, rivers, lakes, etc is good.